Minutes: [SARES] Repeater Meeting

I'm a poor Repeater Group secretary -- I did not take note of who attended today's meeting at W6MOL QTH.  My bad.  Hopefully, Bob can fill it it.

*  W6AMT repeater is "ours".  The question is if we want to accept GVARC's offer to share duties and expenses

    After discussion -- no.  SARES RG can "go it alone" and provide as much or more service than we could linked with GVARC.  And the logistics are easier to manage with one group "in charge".
    Open repeater -- available to all.  Resource for the County.

*  The repeater now sports the callsign "W6MOL".  This is temporary but will work until we have a permanent club ID.

*  Discussion of insurance / rent / etc.  Given the number of EC/AEC (a bit less than a dozen) about $75 each would fund insurance, rent, etc. for the year.
        =>  Decision -- ask for a voluntary donation of $75 - $100 from the EC / AEC.  This should build up a bit of an "endowment" for future unexpected outlays.

*  The repeater is now tuned and operational  Check it out.  (on another thread, SARES RG is asking for coverage reports -- let's find out how well the repeater covers our area)

*  Discussion of liability coverage, 501(c) charity, etc.
        We are looking at $1M of liability coverage -- this should be adequate
        We are starting the process of 501(c) registration -- allowing us to accept tax-deductable contributions
            (Until this is finished, we may be able to take contributions through Fire Associates and give our benefactors the beneifit of a tax deduction.  See W6MOL for details.)
        =>  Decision:  W6MOL will "lead" the look at 501(c) incorporation

*  Discussion of insurance and rent fees.  Not copied here, but it works out to the numbers mentioned above.

*  Need new hardware -- a "controller box" to suppress the repeater output in case of a "lid" (I prefer the British term " IQ-zero ").  See N6HM for details.

*  More on "seed funding".  Looking for about $100 per EC / AEC to get us off to a good start.  No decision, but lots of support.

*  Rick has built us a website -- http://www.saresrg.net .  We talked about Google's AdSense and how to manage traffic.
        No conclusions but it looks promising.  Thanks, Rick !

        *  Note that this site is a "wiki" site and can be edited by members -- but ONLY by memebers

        *  It was suggested that members have their QRZ entries mention the saresrg.net site
                =>  Decision:  Rick will provide some guidelines so we can put a uniform face on our links.

Respectfully submitted,

    Skip, AA6WK
        Secretary,  Sares Repeater Group


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Gundrum 
  To: SARES LIST ; hopkins@INTERNET. got.net 
  Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:14 AM
  Subject: [SARES] Repeater Meeting
      

      Well it looks like Saturday is the most popular day for the meeting.  It will be from 2:00 p.m. to 4 p.m. at 783 Lakewood Dr, 0.4 miles west of Lawrence Expy (exit between Lakehaven & Hwy 101 - TB Map 812-H-5).  This meeting is to make a final decision on how we handle the repeater, with Garlic Valley ARC or without Garlic Valley ARC.  I am including the "proposal" below submitted by Brian Woodson as a starting point for our discussions.


Bob,
I have had time to think about your proposal. I think we need more
discussion. If I understand your proposal you are proposing the following:

Trustee: Bob Grundrum ? GGF????
Call Sign: W6SNY ?? Could we make it neutral
Rent: $500.00 paid by W6GGF
Insurance: ?? paid by SARES
Maintenance:  ??
Control Operators: One representative from each club - SARES and W6GGF
Repeater Upgrades: Who pays?
Repeater Repairs: Who pays?
Ownership: SARES 50% W6GGF 50% ?????

If this is a joint venture then we should make the equity 50/50. This means
both clubs pay equal amounts for all the above. So you really want to use
W6SNY? I guess GGF has no say so? What about K6SCV? There is another club
in the area that has W6SCV. Wouldn't that be more a more neutral call sign.
We are not listed as being afiliated with the ARRL in there database. I
think to join we need to abide by there rules or doctrine. I think the
thing that caught my eye was 50% of the club members must be members of
ARRL. I am a life member already. 

The W6AMT repeater does not have an emergency dc power supply. It is
relying on the site generator which does not meet the criteria for an
emergency repeater. You can not rely upon the site generator in an
emergency situation. Eventually cycling power like that will take its toll
on the system. (My thoughts) Again whoi will pay for this upgrade. The
RC-850 controller is not longer available (ACC) is out of business. This
needs to be upgraded eventually. I will not be able to tell the condition
of the repeater without looking at it and getting the past history of the
repeater. Is there a phone line attached this repeater? If not it then must
be able to be controlled over the air. If there is a phone line who pays
for the line? Re-occurring cost?

Lastly what will the W6GGF benefit from the is joint venture besides having
a repeater that can be reached from South County. We can use WB6ZVW also.
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Here is what I understand about the repeater.

- GE Mastr Exec II from MCC on 440
- Phelps Dodge (Cellwave) duplexer
- Mirage 80w repeater amp
- ACC RC-85 controller
- Motorola squelch circuit

Currently the repeater is DEAF and this could be any thing in the receive
chain Ant - pigtail - coax - preamp (not sure if it has one) - radio. Since
this repeater has been on the air for a while there are some known issues
with the GE Master Exec II that appear over time. 


-Brian




   




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