Re: Minutes: [SARES] Repeater Meeting

From: Rick Eversole <rick@INTERNET.>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:26:17 -0800
Skip La Fetra AA6WK wrote:

sorry about the QLF on my part ... The website is:

www.saresrg.org      not    www.saresrg.net
> I'm a poor Repeater Group secretary -- I did not take note of who 
> attended today's meeting at W6MOL QTH.  My bad.  Hopefully, Bob can 
> fill it it.
>  
> *  W6AMT repeater is "ours".  The question is if we want to accept 
> GVARC's offer to share duties and expenses
>  
>     After discussion -- no.  SARES RG can "go it alone" and provide as 
> much or more service than we could linked with GVARC.  And the 
> logistics are easier to manage with one group "in charge".
>     Open repeater -- available to all.  Resource for the County.
>  
> *  The repeater now sports the callsign "W6MOL".  This is temporary 
> but will work until we have a permanent club ID.
>  
> *  Discussion of insurance / rent / etc.  Given the number of EC/AEC 
> (a bit less than a dozen) about $75 each would fund insurance, rent, 
> etc. for the year.
>         =>  Decision -- ask for a voluntary donation of $75 - $100 
> from the EC / AEC.  This should build up a bit of an "endowment" for 
> future unexpected outlays.
>  
> *  The repeater is now tuned and operational  Check it out.  (on 
> another thread, SARES RG is asking for coverage reports -- let's find 
> out how well the repeater covers our area)
>  
> *  Discussion of liability coverage, 501(c) charity, etc.
>         We are looking at $1M of liability coverage -- this should be 
> adequate
>         We are starting the process of 501(c) registration -- allowing 
> us to accept tax-deductable contributions
>             (Until this is finished, we may be able to take 
> contributions through Fire Associates and give our benefactors the 
> beneifit of a tax deduction.  See W6MOL for details.)
>         =>  Decision:  W6MOL will "lead" the look at 501(c) incorporation
>  
> *  Discussion of insurance and rent fees.  Not copied here, but it 
> works out to the numbers mentioned above.
>  
> *  Need new hardware -- a "controller box" to suppress the repeater 
> output in case of a "lid" (I prefer the British term " IQ-zero ").  
> See N6HM for details.
>  
> *  More on "seed funding".  Looking for about $100 per EC / AEC to get 
> us off to a good start.  No decision, but lots of support.
>  
> *  Rick has built us a website -- http://www.saresrg.net .  We talked 
> about Google's AdSense and how to manage traffic.
>         No conclusions but it looks promising.  Thanks, Rick !
>  
>         *  Note that this site is a "wiki" site and can be edited by 
> members -- but ONLY by memebers
>  
>         *  It was suggested that members have their QRZ entries 
> mention the saresrg.net site
>                 =>  Decision:  Rick will provide some guidelines so we 
> can put a uniform face on our links.
>  
> Respectfully submitted,
>  
>     Skip, AA6WK
>         Secretary,  Sares Repeater Group
>  
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Robert Gundrum <mailto:pafidt@INTERNET. rawbw.com>
>     *To:* SARES LIST <mailto:sares-list@INTERNET. sunnyvaleares.org> ;
>     hopkins@INTERNET. got.net <mailto:hopkins@INTERNET. got.net>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:14 AM
>     *Subject:* [SARES] Repeater Meeting
>        
>         Well it looks like Saturday is the most popular day for the
>     meeting.  It will be from 2:00 p.m. to 4 p.m. at 783 Lakewood Dr,
>     0.4 miles west of Lawrence Expy (exit between Lakehaven & Hwy 101
>     - TB Map 812-H-5).  This meeting is to make a final decision on
>     how we handle the repeater, with Garlic Valley ARC or without
>     Garlic Valley ARC.  I am including the "proposal" below submitted
>     by Brian Woodson as a starting point for our discussions.
>
>     /
>>     Bob,
>>     I have had time to think about your proposal. I think we need more
>>     discussion. If I understand your proposal you are proposing the following:
>>
>>     Trustee: Bob Grundrum ? GGF????
>>     Call Sign: W6SNY ?? Could we make it neutral
>>     Rent: $500.00 paid by W6GGF
>>     Insurance: ?? paid by SARES
>>     Maintenance:  ??
>>     Control Operators: One representative from each club - SARES and W6GGF
>>     Repeater Upgrades: Who pays?
>>     Repeater Repairs: Who pays?
>>     Ownership: SARES 50% W6GGF 50% ?????
>>
>>     If this is a joint venture then we should make the equity 50/50. This means
>>     both clubs pay equal amounts for all the above. So you really want to use
>>     W6SNY? I guess GGF has no say so? What about K6SCV? There is another club
>>     in the area that has W6SCV. Wouldn't that be more a more neutral call sign.
>>     We are not listed as being afiliated with the ARRL in there database. I
>>     think to join we need to abide by there rules or doctrine. I think the
>>     thing that caught my eye was 50% of the club members must be members of
>>     ARRL. I am a life member already. 
>>
>>     The W6AMT repeater does not have an emergency dc power supply. It is
>>     relying on the site generator which does not meet the criteria for an
>>     emergency repeater. You can not rely upon the site generator in an
>>     emergency situation. Eventually cycling power like that will take its toll
>>     on the system. (My thoughts) Again whoi will pay for this upgrade. The
>>     RC-850 controller is not longer available (ACC) is out of business. This
>>     needs to be upgraded eventually. I will not be able to tell the condition
>>     of the repeater without looking at it and getting the past history of the
>>     repeater. Is there a phone line attached this repeater? If not it then must
>>     be able to be controlled over the air. If there is a phone line who pays
>>     for the line? Re-occurring cost?
>>
>>     Lastly what will the W6GGF benefit from the is joint venture besides having
>>     a repeater that can be reached from South County. We can use WB6ZVW also.
>>     ========================================================================================================
>>
>>     Here is what I understand about the repeater.
>>
>>     - GE Mastr Exec II from MCC on 440
>>     - Phelps Dodge (Cellwave) duplexer
>>     - Mirage 80w repeater amp
>>     - ACC RC-85 controller
>>     - Motorola squelch circuit
>>
>>     Currently the repeater is DEAF and this could be any thing in the receive
>>     chain Ant - pigtail - coax - preamp (not sure if it has one) - radio. Since
>>     this repeater has been on the air for a while there are some known issues
>>     with the GE Master Exec II that appear over time. 
>>
>>
>>     -Brian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>       
>      /
>

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